BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

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BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:49 pm

The Burnlaw Disc Golf Collective are proud to host the final BDGA Tour event of the season!

Here's your invitation: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzbh_E ... sp=sharing

Please register here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... E6MA#gid=0

Burnlaw Battle for Bertha PDGA page: http://www.pdga.com/tour/event/19395
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Sun Sep 14, 2014 6:26 am

Players List:

Open:
Chris O'Brien
Jonny Morris
Matt Cutler
Ivan Bromage
Derek Robins
Daniel Ryan
Neal Pickett


Advanced Am:
Andy Cotgreave
Louis Dale
Vic Parker
Christo Wallers
Mark Fleetham
Sue Underwood
Duncan Hartshorne
Nick George
Dan Hawkins
Sophie Southgate
Chris Rowland
Steve Cox
Neal Clifton
Paul Holden


Intermediate Am:
Jaime Martin
Ali Northrop
Gary Villers-Stuart
Tim Foxhall
Ross Davies
Keegan Knittle
Jerry Andrew
Scott Rickard
Steven Braticus-Smith
Tom West
Albert
Charlie O'Brien (Jnr)
Joe O'Brien (Jnr)
Ned Morris (Jnr)
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:40 pm

There are many people who haven't yet played burnlaw.
It is seriously special and the course is always at its best in the autumn.
Close to east coast main line and Newcastle international airport, also a1 and a6.
Come and join the party!
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by BOF » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:51 pm

No longer attending - sorry.

Just noted that date has shifted from its traditional September Equinox to October - now it clashes with school Open Day, which is always the first weekend of October. Pants.

Maybe next year...

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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Paul Holden » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:20 pm

Have only just been able to sort our registration for this.
Have asked for a bunk bed, anyone know if this is likely to be available?
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:24 pm

BOF wrote:No longer attending - sorry.

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That's a shame man. We'll miss ya.


Course map coming soon. We have a par 59 new layout to look forward to. We enjoy the existing areas, with some extended holes, some alternative routes plus we utilise the higher ground at the top of Burnlaw.
And all Sunday finalists will play a very cool set of holes including one EPIC par 5... down hill all the way.
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:29 pm

Paul Holden wrote:Have only just been able to sort our registration for this.
Have asked for a bunk bed, anyone know if this is likely to be available?
Very highly likely. Gary is reviewing all the registration and accommodation requirements presently.
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Paul Holden » Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:21 pm

Chris, just to be awkward, would one of the inside rooms be available for two and would we be able to bring the dog? Louise would like to come but there is a race meeting on and so no B&B available within about 30 miles of Hexham by the looks of it :(
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:33 pm

Paul Holden wrote:Chris, just to be awkward, would one of the inside rooms be available for two and would we be able to bring the dog? Louise would like to come but there is a race meeting on and so no B&B available within about 30 miles of Hexham by the looks of it :(
I have forwarded this Q to Gary
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Paul Holden » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:04 pm

Thanks Chris
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:34 am

Here's the course map for this weekend.

Int Am 5 Hole Final:
2 - par 4
3 - par 3
11 - par 3
Walk up to top field
Drop Zone 13 to 10 - par 4 (the shed, wood, header field, lane and near big field are OB)
18 - par 3

Total 17


Open and Adv Am 9 Hole Final:
1 - par 4
2 - par 4
3 - par 3
Walk up lane to top field
Drop Zone 13 to 10 - par 4 (the shed, wood, header field, lane and near big field are OB)
6 - par 3
7 - par 4
8 - par 3
9 - par 3
18 - par 3

Total 31
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:46 am

Course info. PAR 59

Massive thank you to Jaime Martin for producing the map and formatting the course info :)
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Paul Holden » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:04 am

Some interestong changes from the traditional layot. Not sure about new 4 which seems to remove most of the danger for anyone with a big drive whilst making the hole one shot longer for everyone else? Similar with 1, no danger removed but payoff now for just going as long as possible over the wall and falling short gives little chance of recovery with a good second shot.

Possibly just sour grapes from a weedy arm but I am wary of a move away from holes where 3 good medium range shots can be equivalent to a big drive and two weaker approach shots. A good drive and a good approach should always win out of course.
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Del » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:56 am

I don't know about the height and state of repair of the dry stone wall on new 14, but as with other crossings on the course, I'd be very happy to see steps taken (or literally added :-) ) to minimise the risk of damage to players and walls. I know it's not an intended crossing, but throws will cross over the wall.
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Hopper » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:59 am

Chris, How about new hole distances ? Cant imagine why its been changed ? :D

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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:34 pm

Paul - Holes 1 and 4. They are what they are. Play them in the flesh and watch how the bigger arms navigate all the OBs and DZs. Danger for all. Three good shots may come out better than sneaky long shots.

Del - yes steps are on 14 as per picture I sent you. But raising an important point about all burnlaw walls. They are not to be climbed over. Gary is in the stiles case this week which will help.

Chris - distances measured today and soon to be added to map/notes:

1) 160m target. 51m to wall, 111m to top of slope approaching the green.
2) 123m target. 91m to first fence, 107 to second fence.
3) 42m
4) 194m. 45m to gate entrance to Little Field.
5) 85m
6) 132m
7) 123m. 49m to Oak Tree on the corner.
8) 84m
9) 91m
10) 78m
11) 72m
12) 126m. 108 to stile.
13) 98m
14) 75m
15) 115m
16) 74m
17) 55m
18) 132m
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Jester » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:17 am

Hopper wrote:Cant imagine why its been changed ? :D
Whatever could you mean? ;)
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by bruce » Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:29 pm

Jester wrote:
Hopper wrote:Cant imagine why its been changed ? :D
Whatever could you mean? ;)
I really can't imagine why you'd change the course fairly comprehensively, but leave hole 16/17 as they are
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by ChrisOBrien » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:04 pm

I'll do a press conference at burnlaw! Lol
There is a good reason for everything. And I would like to address all these points in real time, real life, not typing away endlessly. As you're not coming I'll just say that this is the last time we get to use the wood. It's Oran and briony's area and we are developing burnlaw to be more open to the public. We are creating a black, blue and red family course using 5 new baskets, plus 6 teepads and a shed-like clubhouse. The championship 18 will continue to evolve but it will have much of this current layout in the picture - in that more par 4s and using the very top field. Over the winter we will at last be opening up the plantation by removing dead trees and lifting all others. There are already a couple of new baskets in the as 'concept holes' so go explore yourselves and tell me what lines you like.
We have been poised to do this and whenever a tournament comes up we get more enthused, but say next time, next time. Well, this is it guys, it's fresh, it's new and it's exciting. All feedback will be valued, but like I said I'm into face to face in depth discussions as opposed to debating using the written word.
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Re: BDGA#11 - Burnlaw Battle for Bertha - 4th/5th October

Post by Mark.A.D » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:15 pm

i think bruce doesn't like deviation from the course given he designed it :wink:
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