Champion Groove - Speed 13

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Champion Groove - Speed 13

Post by West » Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:13 pm

Another speed 13 has arrived ...

http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/championGroove.html

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Looks cool!! :D

Tim, got one yet? :D
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Post by Del » Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:46 pm

I am ordering some of these discs this week. They should be available at my Quarry Park emporium in a few weeks time. Let me know if you have any specific Innova disc golf requirements.
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Post by West » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:59 am

Del wrote:I am ordering some of these discs this week. They should be available at my Quarry Park emporium in a few weeks time. Let me know if you have any specific Innova disc golf requirements.
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OoooOOOoooooOOOoooooOOOOo .... looking good! Is there going to be set opening times when the weather gets better?!
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Post by Jester » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:35 am

Just what the world needs, another high speed Innova Driver. It's just a faster Beast. Which is just a faster Valkyrie. Which is just a faster Dragon. Which is just a faster Cheetah.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/comparison.html
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Post by rhatton1 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:40 pm

Jester wrote:Just what the world needs, another high speed Innova Driver. It's just a faster Beast. Which is just a faster Valkyrie. Which is just a faster Dragon. Which is just a faster Cheetah.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/comparison.html
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Post by TheGroover » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:40 am

Jester wrote:Just what the world needs, another high speed Innova Driver. It's just a faster Beast. Which is just a faster Valkyrie. Which is just a faster Dragon. Which is just a faster Cheetah.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/comparison.html
And surely faster means further, for those who can throw discs properly. right? This disc sure wouldn't be for me, as I struggle enough to throw my current discs properly.

As I understood it, faster means you'll get further. So, if you take a Wraith, make it faster, then you get a longer drive, right?

Or maybe I've got it *all* wrong, and that's why I'm rated 886. :?
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Post by Village » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:41 am

faster can mean further, it can also mean further off course, or further in the wrong direction!

it doesn't necesarily mean further as extra speed could be at the cost of lift, less lift means your disc will sink faster and fit the ground sooner.

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Post by Jester » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:00 pm

TheGroover wrote: And surely faster means further, for those who can throw discs properly. right? This disc sure wouldn't be for me, as I struggle enough to throw my current discs properly.

As I understood it, faster means you'll get further. So, if you take a Wraith, make it faster, then you get a longer drive, right?

Or maybe I've got it *all* wrong, and that's why I'm rated 886. :?
Yes, faster might potentially mean further, but only if you hit the sweet spot. Otherwise it's a case of 'Goes a long way, goes the wrong way'.

Speed is worthless without control. The faster the disc the more chance it has of going wrong, and staying wrong. Sometimes it would be better to stick to something slower but more dependable and less frisky out of the hand.
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Post by West » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:02 pm

Jester wrote:
TheGroover wrote: And surely faster means further, for those who can throw discs properly. right? This disc sure wouldn't be for me, as I struggle enough to throw my current discs properly.

As I understood it, faster means you'll get further. So, if you take a Wraith, make it faster, then you get a longer drive, right?

Or maybe I've got it *all* wrong, and that's why I'm rated 886. :?
Yes, faster might potentially mean further, but only if you hit the sweet spot. Otherwise it's a case of 'Goes a long way, goes the wrong way'.

Speed is worthless without control. The faster the disc the more chance it has of going wrong, and staying wrong. Sometimes it would be better to stick to something slower but more dependable and less frisky out of the hand.
As last years Frostbreaker champion ... going for dependable speed 9 or lower for the weekend then? :)
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Post by Jester » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:09 pm

West wrote: As last years Frostbreaker champion ... going for dependable speed 9 or lower for the weekend then? :)
Firebird and Roadrunner all the way.
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Post by West » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:16 pm

Jester wrote:
West wrote: As last years Frostbreaker champion ... going for dependable speed 9 or lower for the weekend then? :)
Firebird and Roadrunner all the way.
Nice! :D
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Post by mat cutler » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:09 pm

I sometimes get my longest drives with my tee bird (apparently speed 7 - should almost be half the distance of the groove)

major thing for me is how it feels in the hand not the numbers on the box! best example is the comet - as an ultimate player I should love this disc by the numbers - but oh god it feels horrible in the hand (my opinion of course! del 1 person who wouldn't agree!)

strangely I've found my star destroyer super dependable however does need to be thrown pretty hard.

In my opinion a lot of less experienced players throw far to many discs! I learnt with and xl and a magnet - my first am final at essex i was refusing to play the jungle hole basket 4 to basket 6 after sticking my xl in the lake 3 rd round and throwing with a borrowed disc!

get a pretty neutral disc and learn to play hyzer, turnover, s curve, sidearm, overheads with it rather than relying on the disc to do the work for you!

As an employee of Catch The Spirit Ltd i would like to point out that you should have lots of spare discs of that one type of disc! :wink: And I will be bringing some stock to beaminster!

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Post by Steve » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:03 pm

Jester wrote:
West wrote: As last years Frostbreaker champion ... going for dependable speed 9 or lower for the weekend then? :)
Firebird and Roadrunner all the way.
"Roadrunner" A disc for people who can't turnover a sidewinder.

Your words Mr Wilson! :twisted:
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Post by Jester » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:29 pm

Steve wrote:
Jester wrote:
West wrote: As last years Frostbreaker champion ... going for dependable speed 9 or lower for the weekend then? :)
Firebird and Roadrunner all the way.
"Roadrunner" A disc for people who can't turnover a sidewinder.

Your words Mr Wilson! :twisted:
Still believing everything you hear, mate? :D :roll:
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Post by Steve » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:23 pm

Only when it comes from your silver tongued mouth sir ;)
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Post by Jester » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:47 pm

Steve wrote:Only when it comes from your silver tongued mouth sir ;)
Steve, you're the greatest player ever.
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Post by dunc » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:58 pm

Jester wrote:
Steve wrote:Only when it comes from your silver tongued mouth sir ;)
Steve, you're the greatest player ever.
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Post by Del » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:44 pm

dunc wrote:
Jester wrote:
Steve wrote:Only when it comes from your silver tongued mouth sir ;)
Steve, you're the greatest player ever.
That has the surname Broster?
... and first name Steve :P
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Post by Steve » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:02 pm

I was going to say its good to see such encouragement from top players, but I noticed Dunc's name was there ;)

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Post by ManicMinerUK » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:36 pm

I thought the speed value was more a case of "this disc must be thrown this fast to actually work properly" rather than "this disc flies this fast"

I mean, short of actually attaching engines to them, I'm not really sure how one disc could be said to any "faster" than any other... they are gonna go as fast as you throw them, right?

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