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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Jester » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:44 am

bruce wrote:I absolutely want to play the Euros layout, and it would be daft not to in my view. Every advantage we can give to team GB should be there, otherwise what is the point of having home advantage!
Completely agree! Was talking to Paul and Dave at Burnlaw about this and they agree and are keen. I didn't manage to talk to Charlie.

It would be of so much benefit to Team GB to get to play the EXACT SAME course for Euros under competition conditions at the Essex Tour first. There's no point learning to play a hole one way then coming back two weeks later to find it's been changed.

Playing the same course would also mean Essex could promote their event as 'Come and play the Euro's course and see how you compare against the best in Europe'. There may be people that this doesn't sound attractive too, but I'd wager the greater majority will jump at the chance (as players do in the US when there is the opportunity to play the USDGC course ahead of the USDGC event).

I would've thought it also made sense from an organisational POV for the Championship course to have a dry run?
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by mealticket » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:13 pm

I agree with Bruce and Jester.

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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Paul Holden » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:37 pm

Likewise, assuming it is managable for the Essex open team.
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by paul cooper » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:42 am

hello all, i suppose i should put my 10pence worth in. firstly i dont know what course charlie is planning to play for the euros. i am planning on playing
hole 1 as normal
hole 2 the modified hole (like the finals last year, tee to the left and going up between the trees with the mandos)
hole 3 as normal
hole 4 as normal but with a large island around the basket
hole 5 normal (over lake)
hole 6 normal
hole 7 normal
hole 8 normal (par 5) charlie might play this as a par 4 but the hole would be the same
hole 9 normal down between the 2 tall trees
hole 10 will be the extended old 18, i believe charlie played this last year
hole 11 will be kiddy fiddilers as normal
hole 12 through the trees (i dont mind pulling the tee back as charlie did lat year if he wants)
hole 13 is the hizer bomb hole which i dont think charlie played last time.
hole 14 this is the one where charlie pulled the tee back over the road, i will not do this as everyone just drives up and ends up on the origanl tee anyway unless u got a big arm then you might get an extra 10 meters past it if you lucky and i just dont see the point.
hole 15 over the road as normal
hole 16 i wont to drop "round the building" and then next one up to the big oak and conbine them like in the final from the last 2 years and then play 17 and 18 as normal
last year charlie played round the building then combined up to the big oak and the one to the sports centre and from what i heard it was not a popular hole even james said it should have been as i have proposed as there is too much risk of hitting randoms on your second shots and the need for spotters on first and second drives

the only other difference as last year charlie did not play 13 and put a hole in between 18 and 1, i do not have a spare basket to do this
charlie we need your input, us essex players prefer the course stated above and dont see any real point in changing this format but it would be nice to know your thoughts?

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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Charlie Mead » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:58 pm

Overall the EC course will be unlike the Essex DGC course as Paul has explained it. There will be at least 4 different holes and a number of different tee positions for some of the holes that Essex will play. Two main reasons - 1) there is a road due to be built below the Nursery and the new Student building is planned for next to the Library (exact dates to be confirmed) 2) With only one round per day I want to make the course as challenging as possible so will add a number of longer options and introduce mandos on at least 2 holes (2 and new 8)
The course will be similar to the British Open from last year, where Hole 1 starts at the Sports centre, 2 is around the Ivor Crewe , 3 - 7 (lake) the same, new 8 and 9, 10 to the lodge, 11 (Par 5 over the hill), 12 short, 13 around the Lake (if possible) 14 (combined kiddy-fidler/trees with new tee or normal if 13 not possible), 15 to the buildings, 16 valley road, 17 new around boundary road, 18 (Old 18 but new pin position in the open).
This all has to be confirmed by Estates at meeting in June.

If Paul and Essex DGC want to use this layout then fine, but I don't think they should have to if they don't want to. Maps and final artwork will be up on website by June 10th. I will have tee-mats and signage-posts and other paraphanalia available for them by August 2nd anyway if they want to make use of facilities.
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by ssouth » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:50 pm

number 3 where is the tee? where it is now, or closer to the basket of 2?
number 4 where is the tee? where it is now or along abit with a narrower gap?
number 5 where is the tee? last time you had it before the normal tee?
number 8 what is this?
Are number 9 and 10 normal
number 15 where is the tee? last time you had it before the road
understand its needs to be confirm but can we have a better rough idea :lol:
if not I will wait patiently :-)
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Charlie Mead » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:20 pm

number 3 where is the tee? where it is now, or closer to the basket of 2? To right of current tee
number 4 where is the tee? where it is now or along abit with a narrower gap? Along a bit with narrower gap
number 5 where is the tee? last time you had it before the normal tee? Where it is - have Tee mats this time
number 8 what is this? New hole. Tee of old hole downhill to lake with basket over trees near the large pine tree.
Are number 9 and 10 normal. No. 9 is new tee from other side of old pine to basket by dead oak. 10 (to the Lodge) will probably have tee further up the fairway and move the basket into trees of what used to be old 11.
number 15 where is the tee? last time you had it before the road. Regular Essex Tee as Paul suggested.
New 17 - walk through or round trees to right of valley basket and play long towards Sports Centre.
understand its needs to be confirm but can we have a better rough idea
That's the best I can do for now. Am coming to Essex for weekend of 12/13 May and would appreciate any advice, trials etc of ideas above. Nothing permanently fixed in my mind but do need to have a long and challenging course that will satisfy a Golf Start strategy for all players.
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Jester » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:26 pm

I know what a golf start is, but what's a 'golf-start strategy' please, Charlie, and how does this have an effect on course design?
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by ssouth » Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:08 pm

Brillant look forward to it
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Essex DGC and EC Course

Post by Charlie Mead » Tue May 01, 2012 9:11 am

At Bristol Paul Cooper and I had the chance of talking through all the holes that we have planned for EC and EDGC events. We will finalise the courses when we meet on site May 12/13 but we are committed to having 80%+ of the holes being the same. The only two that will be completely different will be the new holes 8 and 9 which will go back towards the lake after the Lake Hole and then on to the Dead Oak.

We are also trying to make sure that the graphics for both events are consistent and that GB players will get to play in EC conditions (tee-mats etc) as best as possible.
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TWITTER up the EC

Post by Charlie Mead » Tue May 15, 2012 11:32 am

For all you Twitter fans - log onto the website for Twitter feeds for EC 2012. Become a follower now and make it easier to follow individual players in August. If you are playing join the Face Book pages of EC as well as Twitter and all your friends can see how you are doing during your round.
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Nige » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:04 pm

EC2012 site has been updated with lovely maps, hole diagrams, and the specific Rules of Play ...

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Click for Maps:
http://www.bdgaopen.co.uk/course/course-maps

Rules of Play and course notes up here:
http://www.bdgaopen.co.uk/course

There's a handy Map Pack download containing a printer-friendly course map on there, and all 18 hole diagrams... enjoy!

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Jobs that need to be done......

Post by Charlie Mead » Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:41 pm

Only six weeks to go to the finals of EC 2012.....and still lots to do. There are a range of jobs to be completed before the event and still some staff positions needed during. Some of the things we need doing will be paid for so please check out the list below.....

Products
5 x Portable leader-boards - anyone know any carpenters out there? Payment will be made
1 x Large fixed leader-board - same as above
Supply of over 300 steel pins for mats and tee-signs - at least 6" long -

Services and staff
Marketing and PR
Advertising
Media liaison
Communications - especially distributing electronic media locally and on campus
Photographers/Video producers -

So if you can help out then please get in touch
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Hopper » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:16 am

Charlie,
presume as you were going to be about last week, you know about the work near the old hole 18. Fenced within a metre of the hole. Presume be completed by Euro's.

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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Mark.A.D » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:30 am

Quick question, does everyone play all 4 days or is there a scoreline cutoff after the second or third round?
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by Charlie Mead » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:25 pm

For nearly all questions there are answers on the website. But if things aren't clear please ask. Mark - everyone plays all 4 rounds - the higher your score the earlier the start on day 4! And probably Day 3!

Look out for First Round groupings and Format coming soon.
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Transport ConneXions

Post by Charlie Mead » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:48 am

Please note there is a new thread in the Forum under PDGA Europe heading about sharing and helping with transport for players coming from Europe. If you van help anyone out then please do!

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First Round Draw....

Post by Charlie Mead » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:23 pm

First Round Draw is up on the website....

Some really interesting match ups for GB players but also for past champions across all divisions... :D
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by bruce » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:01 pm

Live scoring updated every 6 holes. Watch it here! http://www.pdga.com/tournament/live.php ... 23&Div=MPO
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Re: European Championships 2012

Post by rhatton1 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:28 am

is the live scoring working or does it just kick in from a certain time?
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